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		<title>Comment on 15: Product management is selling by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/10/04/15-product-management-is-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoffrey,

You&#039;ve highlighted a really common misunderstanding in organisations that don&#039;t &quot;get&quot; product management, often where it reports into the Sales organisation.  Because we happen to be good at listening, know our market and products, and are relatively articulate (except me on Monday mornings), some VPs think we should work in Sales.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, if that&#039;s what you enjoy, knock yourself out.

What will happen is that, without a group of product managers keeping one eye on the short-term, one eye on the longer-term view, the organisation will increasingly suffer from an overall lack of strategy.  This is characterised by a very reactive roadmap, incoherent products that try to be all things to all people, and loss of ground to competitors with a more disciplined approach.

It takes a while to get the point across, though!

Thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts.

Cheers,

Jock</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve highlighted a really common misunderstanding in organisations that don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; product management, often where it reports into the Sales organisation.  Because we happen to be good at listening, know our market and products, and are relatively articulate (except me on Monday mornings), some VPs think we should work in Sales.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, if that&#8217;s what you enjoy, knock yourself out.</p>
<p>What will happen is that, without a group of product managers keeping one eye on the short-term, one eye on the longer-term view, the organisation will increasingly suffer from an overall lack of strategy.  This is characterised by a very reactive roadmap, incoherent products that try to be all things to all people, and loss of ground to competitors with a more disciplined approach.</p>
<p>It takes a while to get the point across, though!</p>
<p>Thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Jock</p>
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		<title>Comment on 15: Product management is selling by Geoffrey Anderson</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/10/04/15-product-management-is-selling/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 11:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jock,
Great post, and one that makes me think about the role of sales.  You, rightly, point out that Product Management is sales at its most instinctual basis. It is also marketing.  Promotion, product, placement, all activities that a product manager has to do as naturally as breathing.

One place I was, I had a boss that took another view.  He reclassified us as &quot;inside sales&quot; (I am not kidding, my job code changed) and ordered us to go out and help the sales team close orders.   That is a little too much sales for my taste.

Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jock,<br />
Great post, and one that makes me think about the role of sales.  You, rightly, point out that Product Management is sales at its most instinctual basis. It is also marketing.  Promotion, product, placement, all activities that a product manager has to do as naturally as breathing.</p>
<p>One place I was, I had a boss that took another view.  He reclassified us as &#8220;inside sales&#8221; (I am not kidding, my job code changed) and ordered us to go out and help the sales team close orders.   That is a little too much sales for my taste.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 7: Public speaking is as much about how you say it as well as what you say by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/07/19/7-public-speaking/comment-page-1/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you found the info on public speaking of help.  Thank you for taking the time to say so!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you found the info on public speaking of help.  Thank you for taking the time to say so!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 7: Public speaking is as much about how you say it as well as what you say by Bob</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/07/19/7-public-speaking/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very impressed with your website and and I feel your content is very interesting and informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very impressed with your website and and I feel your content is very interesting and informative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live on ProdMgmtTalk July 25/26 &#8211; the love/hate relationship with Sales by Cindy F. Solomon</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/07/22/live-on-prodmgmttalk-july-2526/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy F. Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 01:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for staying up late to be our first recorded expert at the Global Product Management Talk!  Links of content from the talk http://pack.li/1f includes links to recorded discussion with you and co-hosts, as well as Twitter transcript</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for staying up late to be our first recorded expert at the Global Product Management Talk!  Links of content from the talk <a href="http://pack.li/1f" rel="nofollow">http://pack.li/1f</a> includes links to recorded discussion with you and co-hosts, as well as Twitter transcript</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live on ProdMgmtTalk July 25/26 &#8211; the love/hate relationship with Sales by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/07/22/live-on-prodmgmttalk-july-2526/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cindy, kind of you to say so. I&#039;m looking forward to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cindy, kind of you to say so. I&#8217;m looking forward to it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Live on ProdMgmtTalk July 25/26 &#8211; the love/hate relationship with Sales by Cindy F. Solomon</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/07/22/live-on-prodmgmttalk-july-2526/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy F. Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jock, This is an excellent promotion for your Global Product Management Talk!  You certainly have an expertise in online sales collateral!  Looking forward to an informative and enjoyable discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jock, This is an excellent promotion for your Global Product Management Talk!  You certainly have an expertise in online sales collateral!  Looking forward to an informative and enjoyable discussion!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2: Find problems rather than guess solutions by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/06/07/2-find-problems-rather-than-guess-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to hear that&#039;s the case, but that&#039;s precisely the problem - a company needs to be brave enough to go and speak to their customers, prospects and lost opportunities to perhaps learn some uncomfortable truths about what the market actually wants.

It&#039;s understandable that this is not an attractive option; after all, who wants to be the person who has to point out that their company&#039;s lost its way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that&#8217;s the case, but that&#8217;s precisely the problem &#8211; a company needs to be brave enough to go and speak to their customers, prospects and lost opportunities to perhaps learn some uncomfortable truths about what the market actually wants.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s understandable that this is not an attractive option; after all, who wants to be the person who has to point out that their company&#8217;s lost its way?</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2: Find problems rather than guess solutions by FrintonBoy</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/06/07/2-find-problems-rather-than-guess-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>FrintonBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 10:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jock,

unfortunately still very true around here. 

When looking at what the market really requires, many companies seem to pay lip-service to this idea. But really, are still doing what you describe in the background, then trying to fit the two together (leaning towards the stuff they wanted to do anyway)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jock,</p>
<p>unfortunately still very true around here. </p>
<p>When looking at what the market really requires, many companies seem to pay lip-service to this idea. But really, are still doing what you describe in the background, then trying to fit the two together (leaning towards the stuff they wanted to do anyway)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lo-fi usability testing &#8211; Part 2: Preparation by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/04/13/lo-fi-usability-testing-part-2-preparation/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jacob,

I do agree there are many remote usability testing tools available.  In fact I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/things-to-read/usability-user-experience/usability-testing-tools/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;collected a few elsewhere on this blog&lt;/a&gt;.  I think what you miss out on with remote testing is the easy ability to observe the body language of the person.  But when you&#039;re balancing convenience with depth of information maybe that&#039;s an acceptable (or pragmatic) compromise to make.

Thanks for your comment,

Jock</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jacob,</p>
<p>I do agree there are many remote usability testing tools available.  In fact I&#8217;ve <a href="http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/things-to-read/usability-user-experience/usability-testing-tools/" rel="nofollow">collected a few elsewhere on this blog</a>.  I think what you miss out on with remote testing is the easy ability to observe the body language of the person.  But when you&#8217;re balancing convenience with depth of information maybe that&#8217;s an acceptable (or pragmatic) compromise to make.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment,</p>
<p>Jock</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lo-fi usability testing &#8211; Part 2: Preparation by Jacob Creech</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/04/13/lo-fi-usability-testing-part-2-preparation/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Creech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jock, thanks very much for sharing this post. As someone who works on running a usability tool (http://intuitionhq.com) it&#039;s always interesting to see other peoples feeling on testing, and their suggested techniques for doing so.

I certainly think moderated usability testing has it&#039;s place, but these days there are many remote, unmoderated tools that can really simplify the testing process as well as reducing costs. I find the key is finding a balance between in-person, moderated testing and remote testing, based on the goals and objectives of each site and going on from there. Obviously bigger sites have much more time and money to invest on developing a project than smaller sites/individuals.

I really like you text on creating the scenarios - this is super useful information that can be applied across all kinds of usability testing techniques. I look forward to seeing your next post in the series.

Thanks again for sharing.

Jacob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jock, thanks very much for sharing this post. As someone who works on running a usability tool (<a href="http://intuitionhq.com" rel="nofollow">http://intuitionhq.com</a>) it&#8217;s always interesting to see other peoples feeling on testing, and their suggested techniques for doing so.</p>
<p>I certainly think moderated usability testing has it&#8217;s place, but these days there are many remote, unmoderated tools that can really simplify the testing process as well as reducing costs. I find the key is finding a balance between in-person, moderated testing and remote testing, based on the goals and objectives of each site and going on from there. Obviously bigger sites have much more time and money to invest on developing a project than smaller sites/individuals.</p>
<p>I really like you text on creating the scenarios &#8211; this is super useful information that can be applied across all kinds of usability testing techniques. I look forward to seeing your next post in the series.</p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing.</p>
<p>Jacob.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lo-fi usability testing &#8211; Part 1: Background by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/04/06/lo-fi-usability-testing-part-1-background/comment-page-1/#comment-107</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 13:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; hard for product managers to observe people using their product without jumping in to help them all the time. Similarly, it can be hard to take negative criticism: nobody likes being told their baby&#039;s ugly.

I think about this in a few ways:
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;I really enjoy the &#039;lightbulb&#039; moments when I understand better how people interact with my product&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;My opinion, though interesting, is irrelevant (thanks Pragmatic Marketing)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;It&#039;s better to get unbiased feedback from lots of people, then see if there are recurring problems&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is <em>really</em> hard for product managers to observe people using their product without jumping in to help them all the time. Similarly, it can be hard to take negative criticism: nobody likes being told their baby&#8217;s ugly.</p>
<p>I think about this in a few ways:</p>
<ul>
<li>I really enjoy the &#8216;lightbulb&#8217; moments when I understand better how people interact with my product</li>
<li>My opinion, though interesting, is irrelevant (thanks Pragmatic Marketing)</li>
<li>It&#8217;s better to get unbiased feedback from lots of people, then see if there are recurring problems</li>
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		<title>Comment on Lo-fi usability testing &#8211; Part 1: Background by Per</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2011/04/06/lo-fi-usability-testing-part-1-background/comment-page-1/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator>Per</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff. Regarding fresh eyes, yesterday we pulled in a guy from our customer services team to test a new product extension, with little knowledge of what it should do or how it worked. Some frustration in the morning for me as PM (&quot;goddammit do I have to explain everything, can&#039;t he just find the bugs in the specific windows + features we&#039;ve added? Should have take a sales engineer who knows this stuff&quot;), but at the end of the day the testleader came back with a long list of things that had come up during the testing session. Most issues on the list were outside of the extension, but impacted the experience as a whole nonetheless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff. Regarding fresh eyes, yesterday we pulled in a guy from our customer services team to test a new product extension, with little knowledge of what it should do or how it worked. Some frustration in the morning for me as PM (&#8220;goddammit do I have to explain everything, can&#8217;t he just find the bugs in the specific windows + features we&#8217;ve added? Should have take a sales engineer who knows this stuff&#8221;), but at the end of the day the testleader came back with a long list of things that had come up during the testing session. Most issues on the list were outside of the extension, but impacted the experience as a whole nonetheless!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Link of the day: Buzz Marketing for Technology by Jock</title>
		<link>http://imp.dermot.org.uk/index.php/2010/12/14/link-of-the-day-buzz-marketing-for-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Jock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 16:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re very welcome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re very welcome</p>
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		<title>Comment on Link of the day: Buzz Marketing for Technology by Paul Dunay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Dunay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you for your recommendation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you for your recommendation!</p>
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